{"municipality_id":"albany-county/bethlehem","meeting_id":"granicus-2436","meeting_date":"2026-04-01","text":"three years Okay. Hopefully one of the sunny. Yes. Yeah. It was a nice day. Yeah, I know. I know, I love that. I think they did it. It was the first year I've ever anticipated, but I think they did it last year. For now. Good evening. Today is Wednesday, April 1st, 2026, and this is a regularly scheduled meeting of the Bethlehem Town Zoning Board of Appeals. Please note that these proceedings are being video recorded and will be available for viewing on the Town of Bethlehem website and are also broadcast via Bethlehem Community Network Television, accessible via Spectrum Channel 1301 and Verizon Fios Channel 28. As a reminder, verbal comments on pending applications only permitted during the designated public hearing for that application. All speakers must clearly identify themselves and speak into the microphone to ensure their comments are properly recorded. Each speaker is allowed up to two minutes to speak, while the board will listen to all comments and send a question and answer session. Comments on applications not scheduled for a public hearing this evening will not be accepted. With a quorum of five board members present, I now call this meeting the correction. Thank you. with four board members present. I now call the meeting to order at 6.01 p.m. This evening we have two public hearings. Our first public hearing is a continuation for an application submitted by Jenna Giaconte and John Anastasi for an area variance for the property located at 50 Adams Place in Delmar. Mr. Reiser, may I have a reason for the hearing? Yes, Mr. Chairman. The applicant is proposing to add an additional dwelling unit to a multi-use building. The density unit per acre allows eight dwelling units per acre of unconstricted land. The amount of unconstrained land is .32 acres. This would give the total units allowed to be two units. The proposed shows three units, which is one unit over the allowed two. The lot is located in the Hamlet District and is currently a mixed-use dwelling. Thank you. To forego the reading of the public hearing, I make a motion to indent the public hearing notice into the record. May I have a second, please? Second. By Mr. Coffey. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. I would like to note that we did receive the notification from the Albany County Planning Board dated March 19, 2026. It was determined that the proposed action will have no impact upon the jurisdictional determination referring to the case, nor will it have significant countywide or intermunicipal impact. At this point, I'd like a representative, if you so choose, to come up to the microphone and just provide any additional information. If you have any additional information, you can choose to do that now. forget to identify yourself and speak in the microphone. Hi guys, how are you? Good, how are you this evening? Good, thank you. Jen Giacone, I know you guys know pretty much what's going on with all of this. It was just a few weeks ago we were right here, but not too much more information for you guys other than we were kind of just sitting back waiting for the Albany County status. In the meantime, we've just done some more conversations with our engineering and planning committee for the actual layout of everything going on, with that being the main concern in terms of parking and greenery and fencing and all of that. I did take it upon myself to introduce myself to a few of the neighbors and have conversations with them just to create that playing field and see what they were looking at and see if we could agree on a few things. And to my understanding and my thoughts, I believe those went very, very well. So just here today to kind of the whole point of this zoning board is number of units. Like Craig just mentioned, the lot is zoned for 2.56 units based on our acreage. We're asking for those three just based off the square footage of the building and what it has historically been used at, both commercially and residentially. We feel, like we've mentioned several times, that it's more than large enough to accommodate three units to provide new and affordable housing in what I believe and most of us believe the best part or the center point of our town. Walkability, transferability, all of that. Transportation points, which directly correlates with the town's comprehension plan. don't see too many impacts on the two versus three which we went through in detail. Traffic being one of the biggest points. Going back over the last few weeks and looking at those analyses that we did, it's decreasing the amount of traffic by almost four times compared to what it was doing when it was fully operating as a dentist in residential area. so don't really see that as being an issue when this whole thing is up and running but open to any new questions, comments and thank you for your time again. Thank you. Anybody on the board have any additional questions of the applicant? Thank you. At this time I'd like to ask if there's any members of the audience that would like to speak in favor of or in opposition to the application, please come up to the microphone, introduce yourself, and feel free to address the board. Good evening. My name is Christian Drybush, and I reside near 50 Adams Place. First of all, I do like to acknowledge that I did speak to the applicant about mitigation with respect to this project. And we can continue to have communications concerning that if needed. That being said, I've indicated to them that I am opposed to this three-unit apartment complex. earlier today I did circulate a letter I hope that's part of the record which I tried to summarize really the basis for the objection and that basis is not simply how I feel but rather it establishes a record based upon evidence based upon the town's own records it based upon affidavits based upon historical development of that area with a common title from the original Adams family and their states. And I applied it to the five-factor test to the request for the variants. And I think that established that this variants should not be granted. And to the extent – and I will add just one final observation because it's – I think And we've provided a lot of information for the Board's consideration. But one final observation that I would like to just hammer home on this. This project is an investment project for the applicant. It's not their home. They're not going to live there. Now, in contrast to that, you have four neighbors who are directly affected by this project who live there who are opposed to the project. And so to the extent that there's, it comes down to a factor. I think that the interest of the people who actually live there and have to reside and have to live with it should weigh, if all things being equal, towards denial of the variance. Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me, sir. Just one question. What's your address? Where do you live? I am at 37 Kenwood Avenue. Okay. Are there any additional members in the audience that would like to speak for or against the application? Don't feel you need an invitation. Come on up and speak. I just wanted to make sure no one No, understood My name is Elizabeth Reibusch That you heard from my husband already Our address is 370 Kenwood, which directly Connects to 50 Adams Place We removed A couple windows in our kitchen Because we know this project We have a feeling this project Is going to go through and we didn't really want We wanted to make our home more private But what I don't know if you realize looking at the plans that this three unit development or this three unit building is within 17 feet of the property line our patio goes within three feet of the property line so and where all the parking is is right next to our patio right next to our kitchen I mean we are going to live there we're gonna have cars coming and going we live there when it was the dentist's office and it was quiet. There wasn't people coming and going at all hours. There was one dentist, one patient coming in and out at a time. There wasn't a lot. So it wasn't necessary the commercial space that you might be thinking of when you hear that. And we only spoke to the applicant really one night after one of these meetings, only within the last month. So it's not, it hasn't been an ongoing conversation. And all the work started actually in the property before any of this even started. So we do, our property is core residential. The property on the other border is core residential. this is the only property on this side of Kenwood that is Hamlet. Why that is, I mean, we can speculate, but it doesn't fit the neighborhood to bump it up 50%. And I just wanted to be able to say that. And we don't want to be bad neighbors, but we also want to live in our home with privacy in a residential neighborhood, you know like everyone we love that is so close to the four corners but to increase the density but it's just going to drive us and perhaps others out in the future so just to keep that in mind thank you thank you any additional comments from the attendees here this evening my name is Kate Stonkey. I live at 56 Adams Place. And something the applicant noted in a prior meeting stuck with me. And it was something to the effect of when we purchased our home, which was about four years ago, this property was zoned Hamlet. And as such, we should have known that this was a possibility. And she's absolutely right. This was zoned Hamlet when we purchased in 2021. But the density that was applicable at that point should render this a two-unit maximum project. So we did not sign up for a three-unit project. Myself and my neighbors have gone through tremendous effort outlining how we believe considerations of those five factors apply. And so refer to the record on that. But just wanted to speak to that point this evening that it is the density that there is that we have an issue with are we delighted to live next to a two unit as opposed to a a single family home no but the only thing worse than a two unit would be a three unit so we'd like that to be taken into consideration Thank you. Thank you. Any additional comments? Evening my name is Jim Pichanini. I live at 54 Adams Place immediately adjacent to 50 Adams Place. I just want to reiterate points I had made in the past that this is really a character-changing decision for the neighborhood. increasing the density, increasing the parking space, increasing the traffic in the neighborhood is a detriment, not a positive addition to the neighborhood. We've lived there for 26 years. I believe when we moved in, the property was zoned residential. It's now zoned Hamlet. This is yet another change to conditions that existed historically in the neighborhood, and most neighbors are opposed to it. We're nervous about precedent that could get set by this decision and Don't think it it helps the neighborhood at all. Thank you Thank you Any additional comments Hello board, my name is Jim Giacconi one of the applicants fathers um not probably telling you anything else you don't know but uh this does about the overlay district which basically has no parking it's all the scales show it's less traffic is consistent with where the town's headed if they waited till the master plan gets done they get put four units there or more i think the density is going to 21 per per acre on commercial property it's walkable It's been Hamlet commercial for, I think, 50 years, and it's zoned Hamlet for many years. Something the town desires. We did talk with the town official at the beginning, asked her to do the homework, get the things up front, and kind of the density. You know, the third unit was missed by the wayside. We were told right away, you know, it could never happen. The biggest challenge and the only challenge that was brought to our attention was the parking. They needed two per unit, and they needed six. just doesn't work with two units and we kind of went through the math and last last meeting it's a difference of making it nice and now with some of the things the Planning Board like in the screening six-foot fences excessive amount of shrubbery to do the screening you know it's where they stand they need they need to go in the town forward as the town is trying to go with walk and more places for our singles or us young couples can afford and enjoy the town that we all love. Thank you. That speaks for it. Thank you. Thank you. Any additional comments? Seeing none, unless there's any further questions for discussion, I move to close the public hearing and take action under the discussion phase of the meeting. May I have a second, please? Second. by Ms. Fitzsimons. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. With that, we will move into the second public hearing this evening. Our second public hearing tonight is for an application submitted by Albany Santani-Madir for 387 Crumkill Road. The applicant is proposing to keep pre-existing non-conforming sign that does not meet the town zoning code. Mr. Yeiser may I have a reason for the hearing please Yes Mr. Chairman The applicant is proposing to use an existing sign That is 76 square feet Which is 66 square feet over the loud 10 feet The height is 9 foot 8 inches Which is 3 foot 8 inches over the loud 6 foot The setback is 7 feet Which is 3 feet short of the required 10 feet The lot is located in residential A district And is currently a church Thank you I make a motion to indent the public hearing and notice into the minutes. May I have a second, please? Mr. Vargas all in favor? I Would the representative for the project please come up and Discuss the details and your application Good evening everyone this is Dr. Neerupam Bishwar on behalf of 387 Kramkiel Road, Albany Sanatani Mandir, this is new name. I am a temple president. So I would like to share something. So as you can see there, why we applied to keep the signboard same. First of all, I would like to thank you for giving the opportunity to explain our appeal about preserving the signboard at 387 Krumkel Road. We decided to keep the original signboard because it's part of this location's long history. It has been here since the days when this building was charged almost 200 years ago. As you know in your history, when we purchased the property last August, we met here to clean and renovate both the building and the signboard. without changing its size or shape. As you can see, this is the old signboard. Okay. And I think so next slide. I tried to, we tried to show that the new signboard. Okay. everything same we only updated it by is painting cleaning and adding the temples name and logo new name and logo as you can see there even we haven't removed any single piece of wood from the signboard okay so the question is here last 200 years so this signboard is still usable okay neighbors and the town supervisor have given us positive feedback about how the area looks much better and more welcoming now since the signboard has never caused any issues or complaints we believe it's important to preserve these piece of history while serving our community we respectfully request your approval to keep the signboard as it is so we can honor the past and continue to serve the community in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you. If you could just we might have some questions for you. I know I have one. So the text below the sign, below the logo and what does that say? What is... So we tried to, you know, show the dimensions, okay? No, I'm sorry. What is the actual text? Because I don't read... Oh, okay, over there, okay. Yes. Title is look like Hare Krishna, this is our God, okay? So like, you know, our, you know, God, we can respect them. It's like a Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna mantra. Okay. Yeah. And our new temple name is Alvanishanathani Mantra. Our God name. So is there a direct translation to English? I'm just curious to understand. Yeah, this is like a Sanskrit language. Okay. Sanskrit is look like a Hindi and Bengali language. Okay. Mixer of this. But if we translate to English, it's like the mantra. So it's more like a tag line, if you will, or something along those lines? Yes. You want to come up? Come on up. Run right up here. Just introduce yourself. Okay. I'm Sean. I'm a high schooler here to observe this town board meeting. He's trying to say that the message on that sign is saying, like, praise Hare Krishna. And that's a god. There is no translation. It's just a god. I figured as much. I just wanted to make sure I understood it. Because that is, if I'm not mistaken, that's part of the sign. so you're communicating a tag a message a message that any other institution would have so it's part of the sign itself yeah there's no sort of offensive message no that wasn't what I was trying to get at what I was trying to get at is it's part of your it's part of your brand if you will right is could that is that a safe is that safe to say yeah the logo it to separate it would mean that your brand is kind of being separated yes is that also the reason to understand what what that is is in calculating the size of the sign correct right words are actually part of the calculation Correct, Greg? Mr. Yeiser, if you could just reiterate the size differences, what they're seeking. Just looking, so trying to stay one step ahead of you there, Mr. Chair. Calculating from what was existing to what is present with the message board for the existing one that was previous to this now installed one, I would say that they probably aren't increasing their square footage requirements or asks from what it was prior. Yes, thank you. Mr. Yeiser, are we looking for three separate variances here? That is correct. Size, setback, and height. And you're confirming that all three of those are the same as the old sign? I believe that they are, when they gave me the estimation of the sign, they incorporated the whole sign, meaning the whole picket up into that round to the top. So yes. I have another question for the applicant if you want to step up. My question is Good evening When did you build the new sign and also did you take down the whole old sign? Okay, so we did not build a new sign we did not take down the old sign we just put new stickers and the Hare Krishna Hare Krishna says it's like we pray to the God, that's all, there's no meaning and And if you know about this church, this was the first church in Bethlehem district. So we bought it. We tried to keep the same historical structure. We don't want to damage anything. We don't want to do any additional things with this. That's why we did not build any new sign. That's how we tried to keep the same thing, just adding the new colors, cleaning it up. It was like a big jungle before. we try to make it nice and clean putting in the new paints and just put Hare Krishna and a new logo so we would request as we are trying to honor the historical structure and everything we would also request to support us to keep the same and when did you do all the work on the sign? we bought it like 15 August so we bought it like last year August we're pretty familiar with the property this property has been before the zoning board a couple of years ago i think 18 months or two years ago so we're familiar with the historical but i'm glad you brought it up um significance of of the property uh i was out there earlier today i i don't know it was like lunchtime so i was okay able to connect with anybody that was there there was some folks working on the building and I stopped by. One of the concerns that I had had given the setback and the area of the sign was the roadway and just the sight line of the sign and being able to, when you're driving by it, making sure that that's not going to compromise the roadway and being able to look down the street. And initially I didn't see any issues with that, but I got a good visual in person. Yeah, actually every day people come here to say thank you because all the neighbors especially, they say it was the first church. We always used to hear the bell wake up in the morning from our childhood. and now since it was like in very bad situation, bad position, since you guys came in and cleaned it up, you know, it looks beautiful now, especially with the lightings and all. So we try to keep the same original, old, historical, everything. We just try to clean it up, put the new colors, and just we put the new logos and our religious symbols. That's all we did. That's the changes we did. We did not even change, added one inch extra. or we did not remove anything from there even though the woods you see might be 100 years old we try to keep it preserved you know as long we can any additional questions from the board not a question i'll just add to your comment about the line of sight i happen to live in north bethlehem and i drive by that site i drove by it about six times today oh we just mentioned the tower just at question that has no bearing on anything, but what did you do with the bell tower? Oh, because the buildings, we still have the bell towers, actually. He will explain to you, because he was like dealing with that. Good evening, sir. My name is Ratan Biswas. I'm the one of the partner of this building, me and Shanzai Sikder. So we still keep the bell, because bell, I mean, bring it down because it was too risk for the rope. Because the roof, I mean construction of the roof, the wood, because it's not safe if we keep the building there. That's why building is keeping down. We still have it, though. We still have it in our parking lot. So we're trying to, I mean, communicate with the town if you guys, you know. Yeah, I just raised that point because you're trying to keep the heritage of the 200-year-old building and everything. And that was like any building, historical building, that's part of it. I know that the roof, I was part of the project that came before us before that was abandoned. And I know there's a lot of water damage within the building and sort, and I assume that it was compromised. That is true. Why it came down. But to, like I started, the line of sight, it doesn't appear coming from either direction. From either direction, it doesn't impair anything. If you're coming from the roundabout, the height of the sign blocks the clouds, doesn't block a building. And going out Crumkill Road towards the roundabout, it has no effect on traffic or line of sight or anything like that. Just to add to your comments, Jeremy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any additional comments from the board? Are there any members of the public that would like to speak in favor of or in opposition to the sign? Seeing none, I would move to close the public hearing and take action under the discussion phase. May I have a second, please? By Mr. Coffey. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. we have one informational item which I noted earlier which is the letter that was received today via email 450 Adams place and the Albany County Planning Board determination so those two items we did receive one on the 19th of March and then the the letter today we have one application it's an application submitted by Nolan Engineering on behalf of Lynn Zay at 47 University Street the applicant is proposing to construct an addition that does not meet the town zoning code are there any questions from the board regarding the application seeing none I make a motion to accept the application as submitted and set a public hearing for Wednesday April 15 2026 may I have a second please second by Ms. Fitzsimons all in favor I thank you. We do not have any resolutions this evening. So we'll get right into the discussion and action portion of the meeting I would just like to say on the 50 Adams place. I really appreciate both sides there's a lot of time and effort put in to the application certainly and working with the planning board and obviously working with the zoning board and i certainly understand the local residents and their concern for the property it's it's one of those areas that we have to evaluate and look at from the balance testing portion and there was many comments regarding that this evening. I wrote down a lot of my thoughts on this so I'm going to go over those a little bit just to make sure that we touch upon those areas and the items that I feel right now are important and then I'll ask for comments from the other board members. I've had the opportunity to review all of the documents and the materials for 50 Adams Place. We have received the Dry Bush's letters and emails, so thank you for those. I think that a lot of this relies largely on some speculative impacts. I see some generalized assumptions, and certainly with rental housing, we had one comment the last zoning board meeting regarding rental properties and that this individual did state that he did not want rental properties within the neighborhood. And that's certainly they can have that idea. We live in a society where those types of ideas are. I think that the comparisons that were made in the letter specifically don't reflect the intent of the Hamlet District and the physical context of the site. I think the requested variance advances a reasonable use of the property. I think that it aligns with the goals of the zoning code. does not result in any demonstrated adverse impact on the surrounding neighborhood. And I say that with it comes from the perspective that there will be impacts, certainly, but I think those are going to be mitigated by a lot of what we're seeing from the planning board. the planning board, drew up a detailed, very detailed letter, and we did ask them to do so. So that detailed letter has been memorialized as part of the record. Thank you. As far as an undesirable change in the neighborhood, I don't feel that the three-unit configuration constitutes an undesirable change in the neighborhood. As I stated in the last public hearing the property located is located within the Hamlet district It's intended to accommodate a broader mix of residential building And modest increases in density when compared to core residential residential zoning The Hamlet district functions as a transitional zone and the zoning framework anticipates this flexibility Through the use of variances where appropriate The proposal the applicant proposal remains entirely residential in use and does not introduce commercial activity and does not alter the footprint. It's within the building's current footprint height or the scale is not being increased. They're not adding an additional floor. I think more importantly the neighborhood character is evaluated based on use scale and physical is a well-maintained three-unit residential building and is not inherently incompatible with its surroundings. As far as the owner occupancy component to that, I'd like to point out that regardless of whether or not the owner occupies the property, ownership status isn't a standard and is not enforceable by the zoning by the zoning board whether it's feasible without without the variance while it's true that the property could theoretically be redeveloped with fewer units the law does not require an applicant to pursue the least intensive or least economically reasonable alternative we can't force the applicant to do, redevelop it in a manner we can only look at the code. Whether the variance is substantial, although the requested relief has been characterized as a substantial based on numerical percentages at 2.56 the case law makes it clear that numerical deviation alone is not determinative. So in this case the building already exists. There's no increase in height, size, or footprint. The variance pertains solely to the density not the use. And as far as the alleged physical or environmental impacts I understand this is the topic I think that everybody from what I've heard is concerned about increased activity, increased traffic, lights from vehicles. I think that the applicant, from what I've seen and what is currently going on with the site plan, those issues are being mitigated to the best that they can be. And certainly the planning board does an outstanding job with trying to do their due diligence. If there's any issues regarding water runoff, the town has staff that can address those, but that's not something that, certainly from an environmental standpoint, the town will look at. Whether this difficulty is self-created while the applicant was aware of the zoning code, the time of purchase. It is self-created. Hardship is only one factor that we look at when balancing this and doesn't preclude the board from voting in favor of the variance itself. In conclusion, I think that based on the record and the application of the five-factor balancing test, I find that the proposal does maintain residential use and neighborhood compatibility the alleged impacts are speculative but and the variance enables reasonable and efficient use of an existing structure and The request is consistent. I think this is probably the the Greatest factor in my in my in my mind that the request is consistent with the intent and function of the Hamlet district So for these reasons, I would support approval of the area variance as submitted. Thank you. Ms. Fitzsimons, any comments? Sure. So I also wrote my comments down and did a lot of thinking about this application and considering the substantial opposition that we received. So I'm just going to get to the punchline first. I favor granting the variance. I think the five factors, in my opinion, tilt towards a grant. I'm just going to sort of highlight. I think Jeremy did a great job of running everything down. So I'm just going to highlight a few things. Undesirable change in the character of the neighborhood. I think that the fact that the building is not going to change the the footprint staying the same The building's going to look the same better. It's an improvement. You know this new owner is coming in and is going to Take this building that's looking pretty run down and make it look really good The use is consistent with the mixed residential character of the neighborhood I would note there's a parking lot caddy corner. I mean, there is sort of the division of Kenwood, but it's not unheard of to have a parking lot in this general area. I think that in this case, the applicant has done a really good job designing the parking lot. I know it was reconfigured based on some advice given by the town, And I think it is, with the fencing there, I don't even think it's going to be noticed very much. And I also would note that the two on-street parking spots are going away, which actually makes the street sort of, it conforms with the rest of the street. So I think that's an improvement also. I would note, as Jeremy did, that it's consistent with the comprehensive plan. and it's going to provide more affordable housing in our neighborhood. Plus, it's an adaptive use of an existing structure. And I know somebody called this a rezoning, and it's not a rezoning. The property's already zoned Hamlet, and the proposed use, which is the multi-use building, two units are already allowed. so even if they were going to do two units they'd still have to build this for you know four place parking lot and in my opinion going up to three and having two extra spots doesn't doesn't really change the character of the neighborhood I will note I don't think that I don't think it's a substantial variance that they could put as of now 2.56 units in we're just giving them enough to make three units and to me that's not substantial can the benefit be achieved by other feasible means I think we heard from the applicant that as it's set up now it looks like it feels like three units and in order to make it into two to fit the code it would be it would be difficult and expensive and it it just works better to make it three and so I don't think it's necessarily able to be achieved by other feasible means adverse environmental or physical impacts I know that I think the town board will do a very good job of making sure that any impacts are mitigated there's at least according to our documents doesn't appear to be stormwater impacts and it sounds like the traffic is not going to increase self-created maybe however they did the applicant did say they would not even have purchased this piece of property if they'd known they couldn't do three units so it seems like they came into this situation not necessarily knowingly so for those reasons i would recommend granting the variance thank you mr coffee thank you i won't go through the balancing act that we're supposed to go through because my two colleagues have i think they've covered all those issues very well I will say that I was on the Comprehensive Planning Committee for, I don't know, two or three years. And one of the things, one of the things within the committee and the interest that the community wanted as expressed through our committee members or to our committee members is that we have walkable communities. That's what people wanted. And we also wanted to have affordable housing for people that want to live in our community or stay in our community. Some people are unable to do that or are unfitted to stay in their single-family homes, and they want to stay home, which is in our community, and they want to be able to afford it. And sometimes this type of housing, multi-unit housing, gives them that opportunity. And that's something that's very important, and I agreed with that. and it was whole it was heard throughout the several several years of our our planning committee so that that really that that's the message that we heard and that's something that i agree with wholeheartedly as far as the look of the building i know i like the word that jeremy used he said it's a speculative aspect of what would happen if somebody changed a unit from a two unit to a three unit. And I think with that in mind, the assumption is that we're going to have people living there, the people that do end up living there, are going to be coming and going, coming and going, coming and going. And there might be a little of that, but that's no different than my children when they were of that age where they drive in, they go out, they do things. And that may happen, it may not happen, but those are assumptions that are being made, that the people that will live or would live there would not be consistent with the way we live our lives. And I think that's a little discriminating to some degree that we can make that assumption. Whether it is or isn't, that's, I don't know. In my opinion, that is something that I have a, I don't think that that's the case. And I do believe that we want people, we've become of age and we want to live there. It's not going to be, we don't know who's going to live there. Are they going to be college kids? are they just going to be people like me that just need a smaller environment to live in it's a beautiful place to live it is walkable i wish i lived in a walkable community but that's what people want and that's what they're going to be affording that would be what they'd be affording people we did have a lot of comments we had several comments from neighbors and once again i think that their comments were based on assumptions once again they're real might be right might not be right I don't know that but I don't think that that's I don't think that that's is should be disabling to property owner to to do something or to improve the property which it'll be dramatically improved and the owner occupancy is not always that's once again that's something that's make an assumption that you don't live there it's you're gonna it's gonna you're gonna be slumlords and that's not the case I don't think that that's the case I think that I think that they're well-intentioned and I think the comment was made that the owner may live there at some point in time because living in their housing that's rented I take that it's at face value Albany County did come back and they did not have a problem with what was going to be what was proposed to be done there and that does ways into our consideration so I do know I do you did say that you did work talk to the neighbors and I I think that you'd be open to other things, too. You don't want to be somebody that's a hated owner of property in the neighborhood. And I think all the things that you're proposing to do would be great. So with that in mind, I'm in favor of granting the variance for this property going forward. Thank you. Mr. Vargas. Like the chairman and my colleagues, I'm also going to agree in favor this variance. We heard a lot of testimony, pro, con, town planning board, Albany County planning board. There's been a lot of reviews. I know there's going to be substantial change to what you're going to do in the parking lot there to accommodate the vehicles. You know, I agree, and good luck. Thank you. With that, I would make a motion to approve the variance as requested. May I have a second, please? Second. Mr. Coffey, all in favor? Aye. Thank you. And we have our second. Oh, yes. Our council will draft a resolution, and that resolution will have to be voted on, and likely at the next zoning board meeting, I would guess. And that would be on the 18th, April 15th of this month. We have the second public hearing discussion for the signage located at 387 Crumkill Road. This evening, I'm going to ask Mr. Coffey to start us out. This is in his neighborhood. Apparently, he drove past it six times today. So I'd like to hear from him what his thoughts are on the signing. Well, one more time going home. Like the chairman said, I've lived in, I built a house a couple blocks away 30 years ago. I grew up about two and a half, three miles from that site, so I'm very familiar with it. The house where I live now used to be a cornfield. It's a very nice neighborhood. It's a great place to be. And I've seen the property go through various states of being, and it's disheartening when you have a piece of property. And that's really not part of our consideration. But you hate to see property look like it's abandoned in your neighborhood because it's a beautiful neighborhood. It gets a lot of traffic. It is within our community, so it's important for our community to improve where we can. and if we have people that will take over properties within our jurisdiction, it's good to see it's early part of people coming in from this into Bethlehem, and that's great. So we do have to, when looking at that, we have to go through, like we said with the other project, it's called a balancing test to the property, to the project to grant the variances. And what you guys are looking for are three variances, size, setback, and height. The one thing that does influence that is the fact that the sign has been there for approximately 200 years. To me, that's very important. It's obviously a historical building, and it's very important. It's great to see people interested in taking the property. We did have a couple of projects that came before us that were approved, and they were abandoned, which was somewhat disheartening to me because I lived there, but to our community because, once again, And it's, I won't use this term lightly, but it's kind of an eyesore. It just gets overgrown, and it's really, it's not who we are. And it's, I hate to say it, it's happening all over the world, all over the country. But, you know, our community is a desirable place to live, to build, to have your family and everything else. And have religion. That's what you folks are talking about. So I'll go through these and add comments to them. One of the first factors is an undesirable change will be produced in the character of the neighborhood. Well, I already answered that question because it's not. Actually, what you've done so far looks great. And as I drove by, I drove by again today several times, and I noticed you're doing some work. I don't know if that's water. There's something going on. You're digging down below. I assume it's water or some sort of utility anyways. But in any event, once again, it's an enhancement to the property. It looks great. In my opinion, it does look great. And one of the things when I saw the bell go on, that kind of, you know, that was a monumental thing on top of the building. And I'm hopeful that you'll be able to do that. That's up to you, of course. But it is something that is somewhat, I'm not the only person that drives by. And I know that the people that live there have lived there a long time because lots of people built houses. But it's a major segue into Bethlehem, across from Bethlehem going out and coming in. That's why they put in those turnarounds. So is it an undesirable change? No, it's not. It's an improvement. Will your benefits sought by the applicant be achieved by some other method? Feasible? I don't think so. I think what's happening is what you're doing is what everybody would want you to do, and for your members, your members. I don't know how many members you have. It's none of our business, but I think that you're making the property attractive. You have a purpose, and so I assume you have a following that will benefit from that, and so I don't see how it could be changed in any other method. Is it substantial? I guess if you look at the size of the sign, it is a large sign, but it's an existing sign, and the only reason it doesn't fit is because the codes have changed, and they're trying to downsize us. Because some signs are way too big, from my opinion, but people want to be noticed. But you didn't construct that. What you did is preserved part of that history that that sign had before, and by repurposing it and just cleaning it up and not just cleaning it up, but cleaning it up and making it look good representative of what you folks are interested in, I think that's a great thing. We'll have an adverse impact on the physical and environment conditions. I spoke earlier, it doesn't have any adverse effect. It's not something that impairs people driving by. It really doesn't block anything. Just the way it's perched on the property, even though it is only seven feet from the road, which is closer than we allow, it doesn't have an adverse effect. And to take it and try to move it, then what you're doing is just disturbing part of the history of what it was. And if you moved it, you might have to, it just doesn't make any sense to me. If it did impair traffic or vision, then I think the town would have done something about it a while ago. But it doesn't. It has no effect on it. And is it self-created? No, I don't know. Maybe by some of your ancestors or something. But it was there, it's been there, and in my opinion, it should stay there. So I'm in favor of granting those three variances and proving that. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Fitzsimmons? I agree, and I think Mr. Coffey did a great job. So I'm just going to add that, yeah, it's not an undesirable change in the character of the neighborhood. it's basically the same sign just repainted and put a you know a different denomination on there so I like that you've gotten positive feedback from the neighbors and I did drive by I think it looks really nice I agree there's no issues with the site distance with the cars driving by On the benefit, whether the benefit sought can be achieved by other feasible means, I would imagine that if you tried to get, make the sign conform to the code, you'd have to dig the whole thing out and start from scratch, which I think would impact the historical significance of the sign. and probably cost a lot of money. So, yeah, the only thing I would note is that, you know, obviously the better thing to do would be to come to the board first before you do the work, right? So in that sense, you know, it's too bad that it's already happened. But I don't think that it would have been any different. So for those reasons, I am in favor of granting the variance. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Vargas. I, too, am in favor of granting the variance. You're not changing any of the dimensions of the sign. You're just putting your stamp on it, your logo, which is consistent with you and your services. So, I agree. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you. And I am in favor of it as well, just for all the reasons that my colleagues had pointed out. Safety being paramount and not seeing that that's a safety issue and the size of the sign. It's been there. Has it created major problems with traffic that I'm aware of? Certainly, you know, with that setback in the size. So with that, I would make a motion to approve the application as requested. May I have a second, please? second mr vargas all in favor aye aye and uh the and our council will draft a resolution and we will have it on the zoning board april 15th meeting for uh approval thank you and we get into the final uh piece of business here has everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes from Wednesday, March 18th, 2026 as drafted. And are there any comments or requested edits? No. Seeing none, I make a motion to accept the minutes as drafted. May I have a second, please? Second. Mr. Coffey, all in favor? Aye. And with that, we'll go into adjournment. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals will be held on April 15th, 2026 at 6pm. Please check the town's website or contact the office for any changes or cancellations. Seeing there's no further business to attend to, I make a motion to adjourn the meeting. May I have a second, please? All in favor? Aye. 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